Kylix 3 Open Edition

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Hi,

For those users that want to browse Kylix 3 IDE (for whatever reason)
- maybe to port one or more features to Lazarus IDE (lets think
positive), or to compare and see how great Lazarus IDE has become. Or
to compare the Kylix compiler to the Free Pascal compiler for
compatibility reasons etc. I have made my copy of Kylix 3 Open
Edition available to everybody. I included in the archive my
activation file and some unofficial fixes.

Kylix 3 Open Edition is the freely available one for GPL based
software development. I still see numerous requests for Kylix 3 Open
Edition on various internet forums - though I always recommend FPC and
Lazarus to them. I couldn't find any active location on the internet
to download Kylix 3 OE, so looked through my old archive CD's and
found it. I also emailed Borland and Embarcadero, because you cannot
use Kylix 3 OE if you don't activate it, and the activation URL
mentioned in the Kylix 3 product doesn't exist any more - but neither
Borland nor Embarcadero has the facility any more to activate the
product (no surprise there) - hence the reason I made my activation
file available too.

This is they typical reason I HATE any activation software - perfectly
legal software that becomes useless because the vendor went out of
business or the product got discontinued. Also, SourceForge.net has
numerous projects developed with Kylix 3 OE, but cannot continue any
more because Kylix 3 OE is not available for download.

If you ever need a copy, email me in private and I'll send you the
download URL. It's about a 97MB download. If anybody knows of a more
public location I can upload this file to, please let me know - I have
a serious limit on internet bandwidth.

Borland cannot complain - Kylix 3 Open Edition was free for all to
start with. I purchase Kylix 3 Pro and Kylix 3 Enterprise from them
(though these copies or not for public download obviously) so they
already got my money (and what a waist it was). I hate to see projects
like on SourceForge wither and die because the development tools are
not available for download.
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[Guionardo Furlan]

Hi,

You can publish the file in the 4shared.

Thanks

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi,
For those users that want to browse Kylix 3 IDE (for whatever reason)
- maybe to port one or more features to Lazarus IDE (lets think
positive), or to compare and see how great Lazarus IDE has become. Or
to compare the Kylix compiler to the Free Pascal compiler for
compatibility reasons etc.  I have made my copy of Kylix 3 Open
Edition available to everybody. I included in the archive my
activation file and some unofficial fixes.
Kylix 3 Open Edition is the freely available one for GPL based
software development. I still see numerous requests for Kylix 3 Open
Edition on various internet forums - though I always recommend FPC and
Lazarus to them. I couldn't find any active location on the internet
to download Kylix 3 OE, so looked through my old archive CD's and
found it. I also emailed Borland and Embarcadero, because you cannot
use Kylix 3 OE if you don't activate it, and the activation URL
mentioned in the Kylix 3 product doesn't exist any more - but neither
Borland nor Embarcadero has the facility any more to activate the
product (no surprise there) - hence the reason I made my activation
file available too.
This is they typical reason I HATE any activation software - perfectly
legal software that becomes useless because the vendor went out of
business or the product got discontinued. Also, SourceForge.net has
numerous projects developed with Kylix 3 OE, but cannot continue any
more because Kylix 3 OE is not available for download.
If you ever need a copy, email me in private and I'll send you the
download URL. It's about a 97MB download. If anybody knows of a more
public location I can upload this file to, please let me know - I have
a serious limit on internet bandwidth.
Borland cannot complain - Kylix 3 Open Edition was free for all to
start with. I purchase Kylix 3 Pro and Kylix 3 Enterprise from them
(though these copies or not for public download obviously) so they
already got my money (and what a waist it was). I hate to see projects
like on SourceForge wither and die because the development tools are
not available for download.
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 - Graeme -
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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Guionardo Furlan
Hi,
You can publish the file in the 4shared.

Kylix 3 Open Edition can be download from the following URL.

http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/Kylix3Open/

I attached my activation file. After your installed Kylix and BEFORE
you run Kylix, copy the reg92.txt file into your $HOME directory.

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Guionardo Furlan
You can publish the file in the 4shared.

Doing a Google search for the exact name like I download from Borland,
I now seem to get a few active links.


http://bin-login.name/ftp/pub/Linux/software/kylix3_open.tar.gz (91MB)

This is the same as my original download from Borland. The link Mehmet
Erol Sanliturk posting is a 333MB download link - I don't know why
there is such a huge size difference on that site.

In my other post to this thread is the activation file you need too.
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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Guionardo Furlan
Hi,
You can publish the file in the 4shared.

I uploaded it to 4shared. This archive includes the minor fix updates
(installed separately by user) and activation file. It is available at:

http://www.4shared.com/file/196615736/a4e740ae/kylix3_openeditiontar.html
(92MB)


Other locations are:

http://bin-login.name/ftp/pub/Linux/software/kylix3_open.tar.gz (92MB)
http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/Kylix3Open/ (330MB)



Regards,
- Graeme -

[Mehmet Erol Sanliturk]

On Tuesday 05 January 2010 07:03:22 am Graeme Geldenhuys

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi,
For those users that want to browse Kylix 3 IDE (for whatever

reason)

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
- maybe to port one or more features to Lazarus IDE (lets think
positive), or to compare and see how great Lazarus IDE has

become. Or

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
to compare the Kylix compiler to the Free Pascal compiler for
compatibility reasons etc. I have made my copy of Kylix 3 Open
Edition available to everybody. I included in the archive my
activation file and some unofficial fixes.
Kylix 3 Open Edition is the freely available one for GPL based
software development. I still see numerous requests for Kylix 3

Open

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Edition on various internet forums - though I always recommend

FPC and

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Lazarus to them. I couldn't find any active location on the internet
to download Kylix 3 OE, so looked through my old archive CD's

and

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
found it. I also emailed Borland and Embarcadero, because you

cannot

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
use Kylix 3 OE if you don't activate it, and the activation URL
mentioned in the Kylix 3 product doesn't exist any more - but

neither

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Borland nor Embarcadero has the facility any more to activate

the

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
product (no surprise there) - hence the reason I made my

activation

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
file available too.
This is they typical reason I HATE any activation software -

perfectly

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
legal software that becomes useless because the vendor went

out of

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
business or the product got discontinued. Also, SourceForge.net

has

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
numerous projects developed with Kylix 3 OE, but cannot

continue any

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
more because Kylix 3 OE is not available for download.
If you ever need a copy, email me in private and I'll send you the
download URL. It's about a 97MB download. If anybody knows of

a more

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
public location I can upload this file to, please let me know - I

have

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
a serious limit on internet bandwidth.
Borland cannot complain - Kylix 3 Open Edition was free for all to
start with. I purchase Kylix 3 Pro and Kylix 3 Enterprise from them
(though these copies or not for public download obviously) so

they

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
already got my money (and what a waist it was). I hate to see

projects

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
like on SourceForge wither and die because the development

tools are

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
not available for download.

In the following site

http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/
http://download.borlandforum.com/delphi/

you may find Kylix and Delphi related files open to public .



Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk








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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
In the following site
http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/
http://download.borlandforum.com/delphi/
you may find Kylix and Delphi related files open to public .

Ah, I did not know about that site. I have available Kylix 1 OE and
Kylix 3 OE. The activation still remains a problem though. Without
activation you cannot start the IDE. My activation file is only for
Kylix 3 OE though - I haven't tried it on K1 (it might work or not).

I'll add the above URLs to a my personal wiki site so I don't forget.
(or simply search the Lazarus mailing list archives from now onwards)
:-)
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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
In the following site
http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/

I only noticed now, that version of Kylix 3 Open Edition is 333MB, my
download (which I originally got from Borland) is only 97MB.
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[waldo kitty]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

Post by Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
In the following site
http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/

I only noticed now, that version of Kylix 3 Open Edition is 333MB, my
download (which I originally got from Borland) is only 97MB.

i can confirm the original tar.gz is only some 90M in size... i just hunted up
the old mini-CD i saved it to when i downloaded it back around August 2003... i
also have the 2nd update for it which is only 215K... IIRC, it includes the 1st
update but i really don't recall at this time... sadly, i don't think i can get
to my activation file which is on a very old 486 based linux server that's been
dead for a number of years now :?

i have to wonder what they have in their offering at borlandforum... maybe the
sources to kylix? hummm... we'll find out in an hour or so as i'm pulling it now
just to see ;)

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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

up the old mini-CD i saved it to when i downloaded it back around August
2003... i also have the 2nd update for it which is only 215K... IIRC, it

Yes, I have that update too. Nice and small.

sadly, i
don't think i can get to my activation file which is on a very old 486 based
linux server that's been dead for a number of years now :?

I had to search though a lot of old archive CD's with numerous
duplicates of my Kylix 3 pro and ent. licenses. Eventually I found the
Open Edition license file. Thank goodness for backups.

Speaking of old hardware. I just put together my "universal converter"
system. It consists of my very first PC I ever owned (486-DX2) which
is still in working order. I salvaged the 5.25" floppy drive and a
3.5" diskette drive. Rebuilt it into a slightly newer casing with a
P75 chip and added a DVD-ROM drive and some 64MB memory. Now I can
read my old floppy disks (if I ever felt the need) :-) I'll keep
this system for historic purposes.

the sources to kylix? hummm... we'll find out in an hour or so as i'm
pulling it now just to see ;)

Please let us (or at least me) know what's in there.
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[waldo kitty]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

the sources to kylix? hummm... we'll find out in an hour or so as i'm
pulling it now just to see ;)

Please let us (or at least me) know what's in there.

as far as i can tell, the archive is as large as it is due to a lot of libs
being included... there is definitely numerous Qt related files and a whole lot
of .so files... there's also a few src folders, as well... and some patches for
various linux releases and at least one for Qt...

i don't know if it is statically compiled or not but it does appear that they
included all the libs necessary for it to work... i can't tell much more because
i'm snooping in the tar.gz with 7zip on a windows box :?

FWIW: the archive is dated Aug 2002 which is a year earlier than the archive i
grabbed when i grabbed mine from them...

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[Mehmet Erol Sanliturk]

Post by waldo kitty

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

Post by Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
In the following site
http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/

I only noticed now, that version of Kylix 3 Open Edition is 333MB, my
download (which I originally got from Borland) is only 97MB.

i can confirm the original tar.gz is only some 90M in size... i just
hunted up the old mini-CD i saved it to when i downloaded it back
around August 2003... i also have the 2nd update for it which is only
215K... IIRC, it includes the 1st update but i really don't recall at
this time... sadly, i don't think i can get to my activation file
which is on a very old 486 based linux server that's been dead for a
number of years now :?
i have to wonder what they have in their offering at borlandforum...
maybe the sources to kylix? hummm... we'll find out in an hour or so
as i'm pulling it now just to see ;)
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It contains additional files to supply missing libraries and other
useful parts for some Linux distributions . Therefore all of the files
are not directly related to Kylix . I think the whole file is supplied
by the Borland which is not a collection prepared by the supplier site .


Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk






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Post by waldo kitty

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

Post by Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
In the following site
http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/

I only noticed now, that version of Kylix 3 Open Edition is 333MB,
my download (which I originally got from Borland) is only 97MB.

i can confirm the original tar.gz is only some 90M in size... i just
hunted up the old mini-CD i saved it to when i downloaded it back
around August 2003... i also have the 2nd update for it which is only
215K... IIRC, it includes the 1st update but i really don't recall at
this time... sadly, i don't think i can get to my activation file
which is on a very old 486 based linux server that's been dead for a
number of years now :?
i have to wonder what they have in their offering at borlandforum...
maybe the sources to kylix? hummm... we'll find out in an hour or so
as i'm pulling it now just to see ;)

Hi Mark,

My guess is that Borland/Inprise/Embarcadero/whatever developers have
statically linked the Qt support routines.

KDE and Qt have changed out of sight in the 6 or 7 years since Kylix
was alive. I will bet dollars to doughnuts that the old binaries will
not run on a modern KDE system, so the old Qt libraries were simply
incorporated statically into some new binaries.

Of course, I could be wrong. ... :-)

[BTW, how is your card game coming along? Contact me off-list if you
want some interesting code.]

[Hans-Peter Diettrich]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
If you ever need a copy, email me in private and I'll send you the
download URL. It's about a 97MB download. If anybody knows of a more
public location I can upload this file to, please let me know - I have
a serious limit on internet bandwidth.

I'm interested in testing Kylix. What are the system requirements? Will
it run on SuSE 8.2?

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys
Borland cannot complain - Kylix 3 Open Edition was free for all to
start with. I purchase Kylix 3 Pro and Kylix 3 Enterprise from them
(though these copies or not for public download obviously) so they
already got my money (and what a waist it was). I hate to see projects
like on SourceForge wither and die because the development tools are
not available for download.

AFAIK Kylix and the applications require old kernels - or is it only the
IDE that has problems with nowadays Linux?

DoDi


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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

I'm interested in testing Kylix. What are the system requirements? Will it
run on SuSE 8.2?

It should. From the K3 readme file it is certified for SuSE 7.3 - I
tried it with SuSE 9.0 without any issues. Even the GUI install ran
(which I think I have only managed 3 times since K3 was released). :)

AFAIK Kylix and the applications require old kernels - or is it only the IDE
that has problems with nowadays Linux?

I believe that problem is only related to the Kylix IDE, not to the
applications you create with Kylix. The IDE was some hybrid-WINE
application and close ties to the Linux kernel, not a native CLX app.
I guess that's a partial testament to how much faith Borland had in
CLX to not even use it for the IDE. If they did, CLX would probably
have been a lot more stable.
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[Thomas Lösel]

Dear all,

I was told and found in some internet publications that a book
"Lazarus" (authors Michael van Canneyt, Matthias Gärtner and others)
shall be published in september 2009. I asked in my bookstore but they
don't have it.

Can anybody say how to order?

Thanks in advance

Thomas

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[Michael Schneider]

Post by Thomas Lösel
Dear all,
I was told and found in some internet publications that a book
"Lazarus" (authors Michael van Canneyt, Matthias Gärtner and others)
shall be published in september 2009. I asked in my bookstore but they
don't have it.
Can anybody say how to order?
Thanks in advance
Thomas

take a look here:
http://www.cul.de/lazarus.html

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[Michael Van Canneyt]

Hi,

The book is currently still being overhauled by the editors.

(I just got another mail from them with some questions regarding the text...)

As soon as it is out, we'll send out some news :-)

Michael.

Post by Michael Schneider

Post by Thomas Lösel
Dear all,
I was told and found in some internet publications that a book
"Lazarus" (authors Michael van Canneyt, Matthias Gärtner and others)
shall be published in september 2009. I asked in my bookstore but they
don't have it.
Can anybody say how to order?
Thanks in advance
Thomas

http://www.cul.de/lazarus.html
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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Michael Van Canneyt
As soon as it is out, we'll send out some news :-)

Is it still only going to be in German language?
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[Michael Van Canneyt]

Post by Graeme Geldenhuys

Post by Michael Van Canneyt
As soon as it is out, we'll send out some news :-)

Is it still only going to be in German language?

Unless you're willing to do the translation effort: yes; German only.

I have sort of obtained permission to publish it in english, but
translating 600+ pages is not easily done.

Michael.

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[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Post by Michael Van Canneyt
Unless you're willing to do the translation effort: yes; German only.

OK, fair enough. Unfortunately my German is not very good - I already have
a hard time reading the Toolbox articles. :)


Regards,
- Graeme -

[Hans-Peter Diettrich]

Post by Michael Van Canneyt
I have sort of obtained permission to publish it in english, but
translating 600+ pages is not easily done.

Feel free to contact me, if you need assistance.

DoDi


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[Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Michael Van Canneyt

Post by Michael Van Canneyt
I have sort of obtained permission to publish it in english, but
translating 600+ pages is not easily done.

Great! I didn't know about it.

One thing that should make it easier is that most originals are in
english, so you can start with those originals and only translate what
was changed in the german version. It will still be a huge amount, but
much less.

[Michael Van Canneyt]

Post by Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Michael Van Canneyt

Post by Michael Van Canneyt
I have sort of obtained permission to publish it in english, but
translating 600+ pages is not easily done.

Great! I didn't know about it.
One thing that should make it easier is that most originals are in
english, so you can start with those originals and only translate what
was changed in the german version. It will still be a huge amount, but
much less.

The German version is quite different from the original english version.
I've had numerous revisions mailed to me. (today again 2)

Let's first get the German version finished, that will be hard enough.
I've spent already far more time on this book than I ever imagined.

Then I'll talk again to the editors: I said 'sort of obtained' in my
original mail: That means that nothing is fixed or decided yet; So
all this is highly unofficial and completely subject to the decision
of the editors.

Michael.

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